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Absolute failure at NGPD as a result of lovely museum-based meetup with [livejournal.com profile] hfnuala and [livejournal.com profile] majea. Particular sites of failure were discussions of the three LJspawn present. I forgive myself for "she"ing under pressure when Gnome went invisible by the fishpond, but really, it's taught me how ingrained the ungendered=disrespectful thing is. As [livejournal.com profile] hfnuala observed, the hardest is to say "they" about someone who's there with you, then about someone known, then about a particular unkown person, then an indefinite person. I learned through having a female baby whom I often dressed in "boy" clothes how offensive people find it when they can't easily read someone's gender (well, and I know that from having friends on the trans/androgyny continuum), so I suppose the converse is that withholding gender is giving offence, and that that is something that goes deeper than politics, because clearly I know it isn't.

Also, seriously, I talk too much and don't think much about what comes out of my mouth before it does.

Date: 2007-07-12 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilitufire.livejournal.com
I have nothing interesting to report, because I don't think I talked about a third person singular to anyone, in English or Japanese. I called Mark to talk about delivery of our wine fridge (how fucking bourgeois are we?) but there were two delivery people so they were naturally they...

Date: 2007-07-20 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylegirl.livejournal.com
I just read this article: "You can't trust gender-bending avatars" and thought of what you said about withholding gender as giving offense (which is actually something I think about frequently because in text-based communication my gender is usually unknown or incorrectly assumed until I choose to reveal it...).

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